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yathern
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PostPosted: 10/01/07, 3:11 PM    Post subject: Re: The Da Reply with quote

Overmind wrote:
Nice topic. Reminds me of The Dark Sucker Theory

For years, it has been believed that electric bulbs emit light, but recent information has proved otherwise. Electric bulbs don't emit light; they suck dark. Thus, we call these bulbs Dark Suckers.

The Dark Sucker Theory and the existence of dark suckers prove that dark has mass and is heavier than light.

First, the basis of the Dark Sucker Theory is that electric bulbs suck dark. For example, take the Dark Sucker in the room you are in. There is much less dark right next to it than there is elsewhere. The larger the Dark Sucker, the greater its capacity to to suck dark. Dark Suckers in the parking lot have a much greater capacity to suck dark than the ones in this room.

So with all things, Dark Suckers don't last forever. Once they are full of dark, they can no longer suck. This is proven by the dark spot on a full Dark Sucker.

A candle is a primitive Dark Sucker. A new candle has a white wick. You can see that after the first use, the wick turns black, representing all the dark that has been sucked into it. If you put a pencil next to the wick of an operating candle, it will turn black. This is because it got in the way of the dark flowing into the candle. One of the disadvantages of these primitive Dark Suckers is their limited range.

There are also portable Dark Suckers. In these, the bulbs can't handle all the dark by themselves and must be aided by a Dark Storage Unit. When the Dark Storage Unit is full, it must be either emptied or replaced before the portable Dark Sucker can operate again.

Dark has mass. When dark goes into a Dark Sucker, friction from the mass generates heat. Thus, it is not wise to touch an operating Dark Sucker. Candles present a special problem as the mass must travel into a solid wick instead of through clear glass. This generates a great amount of heat and therefore it's not wise to touch an operating candle.

Also, dark is heavier than light. If you were to swim just below the surface of the lake, you would see a lot of light. If you were to slowly swim deeper and deeper, you would notice it getting darker and darker. When you get really deep, you would be in total darkness. This is because the heavier dark sinks to the bottom of the lake and the lighter light floats at the top. The is why it is called light.

Finally, we must prove that dark is faster than light. If you were to stand in a lit room in front of a closed, dark closet, and slowly opened the closet door, you would see the light slowly enter the closet. But since dark is so fast, you would not be able to see the dark leave the closet.

Next time you see an electric bulb, remember that it is a Dark Sucker.

Heres one fact that kinda blows this whole theory:
Light is a form of energy, so if your sucking dark, your sucking a lack of energy away, which would leave only energy, but only tiny amounts...
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TrojanPastries
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PostPosted: 5/13/08, 1:30 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr_bear wrote:
You guys are all missing a key scientific discovery...namely darkons! ..... )



I prefer the term "obscurons" myself, but then i'm just weird that way. Razz

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PostPosted: 9/05/09, 10:18 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

the only way to make something be anti-light or take away light or whatever is a black hole and would be impossible to make a linear black hole, due to the nature and physics behind it. which is basically gravity at the extreme and as we see what gravity does is form a sphere because its perfect uniform shape. the only thing i can think of is if you created a black hole and some how stretched the fabric of space around it to squeeze it into a linear shape but that would mean there would have to be a gravitational force greater than the black hole to stretch it, which as far as i know there is nothing stronger than a black hole.
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PostPosted: 9/06/09, 9:36 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only way I could see this work is to have a device that created billions of tiny singularities in a straight line or vector. Similar to how you see colour on an lcd monitor..many small dots...it would be a line of many small singularities. However it would not create a black beam as you would see light still around the event horizon of each singularity. It would probably look more like a white line. Of course this is not possible, but just s stretch of the imagination.
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onyx86
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PostPosted: 9/16/09, 9:00 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have negative lights in 3D rendering. They're used to take light out of areas that need to look darker. They act just like point lights, having an inverse square falloff and emitting rays in all directions from a single point. I'd love to see something like it invented in the real world.
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PostPosted: 10/26/09, 3:41 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are all missing the point. Light consists out of photons (tiny particles such as electrons). Darkness is an absence of photons. Which you can make by simply turning of the light. Photons, however, act just like most other particles and fly around. So if you want to make a beam of darkness, you should deflect photons from an area. In this case a beam. So you need a laser that emits photon-deflecting things in a straight line. But given that photons are massless and chargeless (made up from a positron(+) and an electron(-) which both have no mass either and cancel out eachother's charge). They can't be deflected either by magnetism nor by classical "bumping into them". As far as modern day physics go, creating a black beam of "anti-light" is impossible.
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yathern
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PostPosted: 10/26/09, 4:00 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well... intense heat can mess with photons, but now this is just crazy talk because intense heat can also create photons.
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Eugenitor
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PostPosted: 6/19/10, 2:28 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Black laser" is like "dry water". No.

Just get some ultra-pressurized opaque liquid (like oil, I hear you can find plenty in Louisiana these days) and shoot it through a thin aperture. Voila! You now have a black beam.
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LaserHoo
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PostPosted: 6/19/10, 4:18 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. I never realized that electrons have no mass. Wow, I better watch my anti-ass.
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PostPosted: 6/21/10, 4:35 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Light is photons yes. Eletromagnetic Radiation. The spectrum runs from two way radios to gamma rays. The visible part of the spectrum is very small somewhere in the middle. Why can't it be possible to alter a line to remove visible light?

It seems that you can overlay other frequencies over top of visible light with no effect. But what if you pumped the frequency higher than gamma rays.. maybe theres a spot.. a hot spot, where light ceases to pass through. creating not only a line, but a shadow fall from the light source to the nearest surface. Or until refracted light gets in the way. This would also go through walls and stuff...

Gamma rays are apparently more dangerous than the arctic.. so it may not be a good idea. They arent even measured in wavelength or frequency. When the frequency is so high they measure it in electron volts...

but forget about the ability to abrubtly stop light in a line, what, other than a big stick, would actually do it. I just dont understand light enough.. protons vibrate at a certain speed or something to give of a certain frequency of energy i think...

hmm I dont have anything else I need to ponder, wheres my gandalf pipe

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PostPosted: 7/26/10, 10:03 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im not an expert, and I didnt really pay much attention to this in school. But the closest I could imagine would be to send out light in a phase that would cause deconstructive waves and perhaps that would cause the desired effect?
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PostPosted: 7/26/10, 10:09 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

D_rocker wrote:
cause deconstructive waves


Energy can neither be created, nor destroyed, only transferred, ergo light cannot be 'canceled', only transferred.
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PostPosted: 7/26/10, 10:36 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

idk but i hope this happens
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PostPosted: 7/26/10, 10:54 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buffmuffin04 wrote:
D_rocker wrote:
cause deconstructive waves


Energy can neither be created, nor destroyed, only transferred, ergo light cannot be 'canceled', only transferred.


Right, but deconstructive waves occur commonly with sound waves. Examples are in high end luxury cars, it allows the driver and passengers to be in a quieter environment.

I cant confirm if it works with light, and it probably doesnt, because sound needs a medium to travel through, light used photons. But maybe?
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PostPosted: 7/26/10, 11:01 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Destructive interference occurs in light too. Check out diffraction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffraction

It's a fascinating subject and there's a lot of cool things you can do with it. Also, remember that photons have both characteristics of waves and particles, which is why we're still not really sure what light is.
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