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Raptor
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PostPosted: 10/07/05, 11:09 PM    Post subject: 90mw laser Reply with quote

I asked someone and he told me he shined his 90mw laser at his white garage (not glossy) from about 15 feet and his eyes were sore for about 20 minutes...

Is it really that strong that if I shine it on non-reflective surfices such as my ceiling, I will hurt my eyes?

I already ordered, so does anyone have any tips for laser safety (assuming im not buying goggles) Such as things I should and should not shine it at.. ETC.
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Mad_Demon
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PostPosted: 10/08/05, 3:39 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pointing the laser at a non glossy white surface and looking at the dot is damaging. A white surface will not reflect in a "mirror"-like way, it will reflect the beam in a diffuse way. Take a low-power laserpointer or an LED and point it at a white piece of paper. You will see it will reflect the light.
Now, put this to the scale of a 90mW laser. If you look at the point of the beam that is bouncing of a white surface (or any surface for that) it can be dangerous.
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Nexus
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PostPosted: 10/08/05, 3:42 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should not point it at areas where you'll be able to see the dot hit, for example your ceiling, your wall, or your garage, unless you are buying goggles.

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Raptor
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PostPosted: 10/08/05, 1:28 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nexus wrote:
You should not point it at areas where you'll be able to see the dot hit, for example your ceiling, your wall, or your garage, unless you are buying goggles.

Best Regards


for just certain colors or every surface??? why would people buy them if you can't even look at where you are shining it? Rolling Eyes
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chargerman
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PostPosted: 10/08/05, 2:22 PM    Post subject: RE: Reply with quote

Basically what Nexus is saying, Raptor....I think....is that if the diffused reflection from ANY surface is even slightly uncomfortable to look at.....don't do it without proper eyeware! Direct reflections go without saying. My Nexus 95mw is so bright that looking at the "Dot" on any surface color.....even black....within 15 to 20 feet is far to bright to stare at! If what your shining your laser at is uncomfortably bright to look at......it's most likely not to good for your eyes. Just use some common sense Raptor, if you ordered a 90mw like your friends, viewing the "dot" up close on ANY surface is a no no. Besides.....most people are fasinated with the VISIBLE BEAM! Cheers Dale Rolling Eyes
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Raptor
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PostPosted: 10/08/05, 3:42 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

So how do you guys light matches, pop baloons, and cut black tape with them? do you just look away?

Also, does this count out my hopes of frying small spiders and ants with it, because I will need to look away so I can't see where im shining it?
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chargerman
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PostPosted: 10/08/05, 5:45 PM    Post subject: RE: Reply with quote

That's why you will need some laser eyeware! If you are going to get into experimenting with your laser you really need eye protection. For starpointing or just general goofy around your O.K. without them, but for up close.....get some laser glass'/goggles. Cheers Dale
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nero_design
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PostPosted: 10/09/05, 5:54 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find that pointing the NEXUS at a match head can be almost painful to look at without the glasses and I always use them now for doing these kind of experiements. There's a bit of flash-blindness (the kind of after image you get from looking into a camera flash) when the beam hits the surface of the match but this effect is completely cancelled when using the glasses. You can still see the dot and sometimes the beam if there's any smoke in the room.

See image: http://www.pbase.com/nero_design/image/49116365

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fr0ng
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PostPosted: 10/12/05, 4:01 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

white reflects light/heat and black absorbs it...so shining it on a black object will make the dot appear dimmer and it wont hurt your eyes as much as it would if you shined it on something white..but like nexus said, buy goggles if youre going to be doing that...your eyesight is very valueable and you dont want to ruin it for the rest of your life over something that was completley avoidable.
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